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Top Five Red Flags When Buying A Safe (Video)

Fraud and mis-selling are quite common in the safe business so we've listed the top five checks you can make to verify your dealing with an honest and professional safe supplier.

A lack of transparency in qualifications, product certification, location or identity should be a good indication of a problem. A professional safe supplier will always be able to provide documentation to back up claims.

Why Underfloor Safes Are A Bad Idea (Video)

Under floor Safes are experiencing a resurgence in popularity recently. Units in a large range of designs have become available very cheaply to the trade.

As the main cost of an underfloor safe is labour in fitting, selling an underfloor safe is a very profitable proposition to many suppliers but there are also many problems and dangers associated with underfloor safes that aren't advertised.

EN14450 "Secure Safe Cabinets" Are Not Safes (Video)

The EN14450 "Secure Safe Cabinet" standard makes it clear that these units are not certified safes yet these units are often marketed by unscrupulous dealers as "safes" with unsubstantiated cash covers often mentioned.

The European “Secure Safe Cabinet” standard EN11450 was introduced in Europe in 2005 and was intended as a standard for secure cabinets mainly for items other than cash used in a domestic setting. This standard was only developed to assure a user of these units that the locking mechanism and construction were consistent with the most basic needs of secure storage.

Pneumatic Cash Transfer - The Sales Pitch Vs Reality (Video)

When a pneumatic tube or capsule deposit is fitted to any certified safe, the safe can no longer be treated as a certified unit as its barrier material has been extensively breached. A 65 mm hole, which is the standard pneumatic capsule deposit size, is large enough to easily remove capsules without attacking the safe itself.

Deposit Safe Fraud (Video)

When a pneumatic tube, capsule deposit, rotary trap or letter slot is fitted to any certified safe, the safe can no longer be treated as a certified unit as its barrier material has been extensively breached.

Despite this fact many unscrupulous safe suppliers claim that a safe certified EN1143-1 remains certified even after this kind of major alteration has occurred and will also claim that the altered unit also maintains its’ cash rating. This kind of intentional deception is fraud.

Key Vs Digital Safe Locks (Video)

If it is possible to access a mechanical safe or vault lock by non invasive manipulation and in doing so leave no trace of entry then how can this lock type by definition be called secure?

A key is basically a shaped piece of metal that anyone can use to open your safe or vault. It doesn’t restrict access or know who uses it and can be copied even from a photograph now more easily than ever.

Inflated Insurance Rates (Video)

Many safe suppliers are advertising inflated insurance rates for safes on sale in Ireland. To do this could legitimately be viewed as fraud, yet the practice is quite widespread.

To make matters worse, in almost all cases, these fictitious insurance rates are presented as being achievable without the need for an intruder alarm installed on the premises where the safe is fitted. An idea that would never be entertained by any Irish risk manager, or any insurance organisation for that matter.

GDPR Paper Files A Common Oversight (Video)

This compliance goal of the GDPR clearly can't be achieved if physical keys are being used to control access to data cabinets, filing cabinets etc. Even if it were possible to track the use of physical keys, keeping unencrypted logs or paper records of who uses these keys is completely impractical, prone to inaccuracy and manipulation, not to mention the fact that the access logs themselves would become a GDPR issue.

Locksmith Licence - Clarification Regarding Safes (Video)

With the exception of safe key cutting, the profession of locksmith is completely separate from that of suppliers of certified safes and vaults.

Modern safe and vault locking systems are almost exclusively electronic and would have more in common with advanced access control than the skills one would associate with the locksmith profession. Where a mechanical lock is used it would normally be re-programmable which negates the need for key cutting completely. This fact has been openly acknowledged by the Private Security Authority (Ireland) who currently have a separate license standard for “Locksmiths” and will issue a separate “Safe Suppliers” standard in the near future.

Bogus Safe Rating Lists (Video)

A European testing and certification system has been in place for safes since 1998 and all properly certified safes are clearly marked. Despite this fact "safe rating lists" are still in circulation in the insurance industry in Ireland that proport to provide overnight cash cover ratings for safes by manufacturer or model name.

In the majority of cases this information is both incorrect and highly misleading. As most (if not all) of these “safe rating lists” contain a great many untested and uncertified safes, the most obvious reason for such documents’ existence is to circumvent the established safe rating system in Ireland which is based on accredited European certification. The legally recognised European system of safe certification is transparent to scrutiny and simple to understand. As safes ratings in almost all European countries are dependent on the accredited certified grade of each safe, a ratings list for safes has long been completely unnecessary and can have no legitimate purpose in the Republic of Ireland.

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